Comments on: Use a Sawyer Extractor for Snake and Insect Bites http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/ The Gear Site for Survivalists Mon, 21 May 2012 05:35:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Mike http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-65038 Mike Sun, 15 Apr 2012 16:27:52 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-65038 I bought a sawyer a while back but from research, I dont think I would use it for a snake bite. Maybe for a spider bite. What I have found, is if possible, get medical treatment, but for those of us that might be in a bug out senerio or hunting or just out walking, is first get away from the damn snake, and always carry a pouch a activated charcoal and pack the bitten area, snake spider bee wasp ect., with weted activated charcoal,( should use some sort of medium to hold it together either water,wont hold together but works, corn starch or even vasoline,) and change every 2 hours. It wont stop any venom already in your system but will absorb any venom in the bite area. This is not a put on and walk away, you still need to stay calm, like other experts have said, but will help more than the sawyer. Works wonders with posions and more. This is in my home and bug out packs. No one should be without. I bought a sawyer a while back but from research, I dont think I would use it for a snake bite. Maybe for a spider bite. What I have found, is if possible, get medical treatment, but for those of us that might be in a bug out senerio or hunting or just out walking, is first get away from the damn snake, and always carry a pouch a activated charcoal and pack the bitten area, snake spider bee wasp ect., with weted activated charcoal,( should use some sort of medium to hold it together either water,wont hold together but works, corn starch or even vasoline,) and change every 2 hours. It wont stop any venom already in your system but will absorb any venom in the bite area. This is not a put on and walk away, you still need to stay calm, like other experts have said, but will help more than the sawyer. Works wonders with posions and more. This is in my home and bug out packs. No one should be without.

]]> By: 1LT Doe U.S. Army AD http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-53731 1LT Doe U.S. Army AD Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:58:22 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-53731 I have this kit and it seemed to be "to good to be true" when I had purchased it. I figured for the relatively low price tag and little to no other measures that good be taken at a minimum the psychological benefit of administering it to someone who has just been bitten and terrified can actually cause a physiological reaction by slowing the heart rate and blood flow. In some cases this could be useful for venom that does use arterial passageways. I have this kit and it seemed to be "to good to be true" when I had purchased it. I figured for the relatively low price tag and little to no other measures that good be taken at a minimum the psychological benefit of administering it to someone who has just been bitten and terrified can actually cause a physiological reaction by slowing the heart rate and blood flow. In some cases this could be useful for venom that does use arterial passageways.

]]> By: Bug Out Bag | Pearltrees http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-47511 Bug Out Bag | Pearltrees Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:38:45 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-47511 [...] The Sawyer Extractor is the best first aid application for poisonous snake bites as well as insect bites and stings. The Extractor is a venom suction system that removes the venom from the victims bloodstream. The Sawyer Extractor system is also reusable and a definite must have for your Bug Out Bag or other survival gear. While it is prominently known as a first aid measure for a dangerous snake bite, it is equally effective for relief from mosquito bites or bee stings. Snake bites are a definite threat in a survival situation and a hospital may not be available, you are going to need all of the help you can get. Use a Sawyer Extractor for Snake and Insect Bites [...] [...] The Sawyer Extractor is the best first aid application for poisonous snake bites as well as insect bites and stings. The Extractor is a venom suction system that removes the venom from the victims bloodstream. The Sawyer Extractor system is also reusable and a definite must have for your Bug Out Bag or other survival gear. While it is prominently known as a first aid measure for a dangerous snake bite, it is equally effective for relief from mosquito bites or bee stings. Snake bites are a definite threat in a survival situation and a hospital may not be available, you are going to need all of the help you can get. Use a Sawyer Extractor for Snake and Insect Bites [...]

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]]> By: MethanP http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-37188 MethanP Sat, 03 Dec 2011 23:37:24 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-37188 If this kit works, it is the only one that should even be considered. You should never be cutting or sucking it. If this kit works, it is the only one that should even be considered. You should never be cutting or sucking it.

]]> By: wantalongername http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-23722 wantalongername Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:26:22 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-23722 I got some snakes , who wants to do some research? I got some snakes , who wants to do some research?

]]> By: beenthere4real http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-23379 beenthere4real Tue, 13 Sep 2011 04:21:06 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-23379 The best treatment is prevention, good high top boots and a good pair of gators wil prevent bites to the ankles and calves, as far as bites on hands go keep them out of harms way. If your bug out area is wilderness or desert a good walking staff is a great tool, use it to push brush out of the way or to check obvious snake hideing spots. The best treatment is prevention, good high top boots and a good pair of gators wil prevent bites to the ankles and calves, as far as bites on hands go keep them out of harms way. If your bug out area is wilderness or desert a good walking staff is a great tool, use it to push brush out of the way or to check obvious snake hideing spots.

]]> By: Prep4theDay http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-23204 Prep4theDay Mon, 12 Sep 2011 05:37:52 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-23204 I worked in a Florida ER for 8 years and never heard of any effective treatment given to a snake bite victim before they got to us and our stocks of anti-venin. Honestly, we just didn't get many injuries of that sort and I don't recall any deaths from them. What we DID get a lot of was spider/insect bites, jellyfish stings, animal bites/scratches and once in a great while a stingray... um... sting. Out of all those things, the biggest problem by far was infection (from the environment, not the toxins). I got a Sawyer kit in my 1st aid bag (personal use, not professional) but for insect bites not snake bites. It's not that I believe in them, so much as, I try to keep an open mind and wait for research results and to hear experiences from others. I worked in a Florida ER for 8 years and never heard of any effective treatment given to a snake bite victim before they got to us and our stocks of anti-venin. Honestly, we just didn't get many injuries of that sort and I don't recall any deaths from them.

What we DID get a lot of was spider/insect bites, jellyfish stings, animal bites/scratches and once in a great while a stingray… um… sting. Out of all those things, the biggest problem by far was infection (from the environment, not the toxins).

I got a Sawyer kit in my 1st aid bag (personal use, not professional) but for insect bites not snake bites. It's not that I believe in them, so much as, I try to keep an open mind and wait for research results and to hear experiences from others.

]]> By: Resh http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-22502 Resh Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:16:55 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-22502 Bear in mind with those statistics that this is with hospitals for treatment. Google up some images of Brown Recluse bites, but try to do it on an empty stomach. They can cause necrosis of tissue (some pictures were severe enough that they required skin grafts after treatment). That tissue necrosis could absolutely lead to death via subsequent bacterial infections without medical treatment I would think. Try here for some treatment methods from emedicinehealth.com: <a href="http://www.emedicinehealth.com/spider_bite_brown_recluse_spider_bite/page6_em.htm#Brown%20Recluse%20Bite%20Treatment" rel="nofollow">http://www.emedicinehealth.com/spider_bite_brown_...</a> Interestingly, they do mention suction and electricity as options to not try. Maybe in this case, due to the tendency of the venom to kill flesh already, creating that pocket of suction could potentially worsen the effect? I don't know for certain, just speculating. Bear in mind with those statistics that this is with hospitals for treatment. Google up some images of Brown Recluse bites, but try to do it on an empty stomach. They can cause necrosis of tissue (some pictures were severe enough that they required skin grafts after treatment). That tissue necrosis could absolutely lead to death via subsequent bacterial infections without medical treatment I would think.

Try here for some treatment methods from emedicinehealth.com: http://www.emedicinehealth.com/spider_bite_brown_…

Interestingly, they do mention suction and electricity as options to not try. Maybe in this case, due to the tendency of the venom to kill flesh already, creating that pocket of suction could potentially worsen the effect? I don't know for certain, just speculating.

]]> By: corky http://survivalcache.com/sawyer-extractor/#comment-15778 corky Wed, 06 Jul 2011 17:32:39 +0000 http://survivalcache.com/?p=993#comment-15778 i'd rather have any type of venom removal than none! i'd rather have any type of venom removal than none!

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