Deciding whether or not to take your dog in a survival situation is a more difficult question than choosing between types of gear. For animal loving pet owners it’s a no-brainer. Others might see dogs an an unnecessary risk and use of supplies.
Dog
Pro:
- Excellent Early Warning Security
- Close Quarters Fighting Advantage
- Threat Deterrent
- Animal Tracking
- Companionship
Con:
- Noise can be a security risk
- Extra Food
- Extra Water
- Some Terrain is Difficult
No Dog
Pro:
- Move Faster in some Situations
- No unnecessary noises
- No extra food or water required
Con:
- Lonliness
- No warning for unheard/unseen risks
What Else?
Can you tell my list is a little slanted towards the pro-Dog side? Leave a comment and tell us what other good reasons you have for having or not having a dog in a survival situation. Also see our Bug Out Bag for dogs – I spray painted mine and it turned out great.
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It depends on the dog – no ankle bitters. Needs to be a "working breed". Man has had canines as companions and working helpers for thousands of years – but they weren't "cock-a-poos" and "shitzus". The benefits of a good working dog, will far out weigh the negatives.
Steve,
At the risk of alienating some readers I have to say I'm not a big fan of small dogs and toy breeds either. Thought they will probably still be able to warn you early if someone/something is around they certainly won't help much in a fight.
Wouldn’t survive the constant terrain struggle or any crazy weather, its a fact that with out humans almost 80 percent of modern dog breeds would not survive on their own. Even strong dogs like pitbulls, american bulldogs and some other short haired molosser breeds would not survive winter.
An attacker can use your own gun on you, but he can never use your own dog on you. A well trained guard dog with its own survival skills, will be essential.
well, one thing is for sure… toy dogs are useless in a survival situation for anything but companionship. But they take up space and supplies and most people with them will make poor decisions that could get themselves killed trying to save their toy pet and not see that it is drawing attention to you and your group. I would have to eliminate a toy pet if it was in our group because of that. Other dogs are vital to your survival depending on how smart they are and I think they add much more pro's to your surviving.
I say bring the dog. I see it as a little insurance… if something goes bump in the night, Fido will be there to help you check it out. When you have no one left to talk to, you have Fido to talk to… and in the event that you run out of food… you can eat the dog. Come on… he's your best friend… he wouldn't want you to be hungry.
I was wondering how long it would take for someone to suggest that.
I really don't think I could do it. But I've never been hungry to the point of starvation either.
dog if cooked does not taste that bad but its not somthing i could eat often and its not like a coyote is a well liked dog lol. it was a big accomplishment the day i killed one with a spear i made while getting trained by some hardcore friends it was a good lesson USE A GUN NEXT TIME lol
A Boy and His Dog, that's all I'm gonna say. (those who have seen the movie know what I'm talking about)
LOL… dude I was wondering if anyone would say that, too true. And by the way everyone an ancient Chinese(?) saying "Dog will keep your stomach warm" It has a double meaning, a dog can give you a safe feeling but ou can eat it too. In case you are wondering yes/no dog tastes like chicken, lol, and it takes a long time to digest too.
A dog can also help you track and hunt for food. Nothing like a dog to corner some game for you until you catch up with him
Agreed.
Of course it would certainly help if you trained the dog some before hand.
Many dogs will not be of much help in a combat scenario unless they are trained as attack dogs. There is a big difference between an attack dog and a guard dog. Frankly, in a survival situation, I would rather have a woods-savvy guard dog than a trained attack K9.
+2 for the "working dog" comment… if it's not a working dog it's a chew toy for a working dog.
I had a medium sized dog who was neither a guard dog nor a tactical (trained) dog and I never thought he'd be much help in a fight (he's too friendly to EVERYBODY) until I saw him jump a 7 foot fence and jump on a guy behind our house who had attacked me, the guy had very easily had me on the ground and almost subdued and if it wasn't for the dog it would not have ended well for me.
Wow! What a story!
What kind of dog is it?
It's amazing what dogs will do, big or small, to protect their owners.
I would go for a working dog as well. I have been looking at getting a rottweiler as I miss my last one a great deal, she used to camp, hike with me often and carried some of her own supplies in one of those canine packs. She was tough and capable of handling inclimate weather (I used to live in Nova Scotia), no yappy dogs though.
Rory,
Good point. I should have added the dogs packs to the list. Full size dogs will be able to carry all of their own gear in a pack, and possibly even a few small things of yours if there is room.
On the subject of yappy dogs, a well behaved dog will give you a "woof" alert if something is wrong, not bark it's head off i.e chihuahua style. Always encourage your dog to give a bark or woof at a door knock or stranger entering house/yard. But make sure they understand when to be silent i.e. stop barking NOW.
For me, taking dogs is a non-issue. If I’m bugging out they’re coming with me. But I disagree with “working dogs”, sounds a lot like like the 9mm vs .45cal debate. I’m sure only real men bring “working dogs” and carry .45s. It depends on your situation, my dogs are trained as watch dogs. I’d much rather bring a watch dog that eats 1 cup of food a day than one that eats 1lb a day. Plus they’re better at flushing small game.
architect,
It's good to have someone on the other side of that debate.
Just personally I prefer big dogs, but if yours are trained and work for you then by all means.
While I can see the pro of having a small dog, if its well trained, the majority of small dog breeds no matter how well trained will not survive extreme weather, or even the constant terrain struggle.
Also keep in mind the prey factor. Up here in canada if you have a small dog with out a big bite grip, and no matter how determined and trained your small dog is it would fall prey to cyotes, wolves,bears, even the raccoons here have been known for killing small dogs.
As for food, a large breed dog if working every day will eat up to 4- 4.5 cups of food ( assuming its not a greatdane lol), but for the most part dog food canned and dried is almost 60 percent more expensive than our food, and your dog is better off eating meat and rice like you. dog food is full of corn and by product filler. Your dog would actually eat less, if you fed it canned human meats, with a bit of rice and some sort of veggie like a carrot. Also keep in mind a dog with out door survival skills will be able to hunt small game for itself, squirrels, rabbits, mice to help suppliment its diet.
I have a pitbull-lab cross, and a malinois-am.bulldog cross. Both medium sized dogs able to combat the cold, and are well trained guard dogs. They stick close whether in the car or on horseback, and as an example of 3 medium dogs strenghth, one day I witnessed my two dogs and a farm dog take down a deer (we have overpopulation in our area) when they were having their free time. 100 percent I am brining my dogs, along with a well trained horse for all the places a car can’t get me.
In the practical sense, dogs will also be good for body warmth. Who hasn't felt the "portable heater" affect from a dog who falls asleep either on your feet or close to your body. But my favorite reason for having a dog is what I call "simple joy". To watch a dog run, wholeheartedly, for the simple joy it creates in their hearts. To see a frisky moment, that you didn't see coming, that makes you laugh with abandonment. From a psychological standpoint, these reminders of simple joys will be necessary in a devastated world.
if you read on history of dog-sled users you will see that exact point, using each other for warmth as well as protection
3 dog night wasn't just a band from the 70s. This was a term used by indians about how cold the night was. The colder the weather the more dogs one would sleep with.
I have a male and a female Rhodesian Ridgeback. Very alert and have great situational awareness. I have held back on releasing them on rabbits and squirrels but I have no doubt they could catch them. If someone is considering a breed I would suggest a working breed but they don’t have to be a large dog. Maybe a border collie for those who prefer a smaller dog.
Andrew,
I've always liked border collies. They are one of the smartest breeds in the world.
I googled Rhodesian Ridgeback because I didn't immediately know what they looked like and the first result is from wikipedia saying:
"The Rhodesian Ridgeback is a dog breed developed in Southern Africa where it was used (amongst other things) to hunt big lions."
Hhaha sounds like you have a good hunting companion
I saw an animal planet special on the Rhodesian Ridgeback. I am in awe at their capibilities. Sounds like youre well off.
or even a heeler or innumerable Terrier breeds. I grew up with a Rhodesian ridgeback. He was my favorite dog ever and at 150 lbs a gentle giant. But god help the poor ignorant son of a gun who walked into our house without knocking, or after hours, or messed with the kids. When samson came after you it might as well have been a grizzly bear.
only downside was that being as big as a horse, he also ate like a horse.
My family and i had a Ridgeback and her intelligence and power was amazing. They are natural protectors, when we lost her (passed away) there was no question in our family about what type of dog we would get. Ridgeback all the way. Now we also added a mutt (half ridgeback) to our "pack". I have seen Ridgebacks in action and there is no way anyone is getting near the family with our Ridgebacks there to protect. When SHTF a good dog is a must, especially to keep unwanted visitors off our land.
Personally I think the benefits of having a dog greatly outweigh the risks involved in caring for one. Even small dogs and especially ones like a Jack Russell who instinctively hunt. Dogs that tend to bark at anything that moves or have high anxiety (found in small dogs and working breeds who do not get enough stimulation) could be quite a hindrance but there's lots of situations where they'd still be more of a use than a burden. If you are in a situation where stealth could save your life, I'd hate to be dragging along a dog with high anxiety but for me, I say have the dog(s).
i have to agree with you my huskey is great for around the camp but for being 5 years old i still have trouble keeping her quiet when things move and jump her. She is my baby girl.
i agree with the jack russel comment. i had one when i was younger (he died a bit ago) and i never taught him to hunt. barely taught him to fetch. but hed always bring me animals he killed (or in an unfortunate case almost killed.). they are natural small game hunters on there own. hell the little bugger brought me a coral snake once. and didnt get bitten. we brought him to the vet to check. but terriers for the most part are wonderful dogs to bring with you.
As I am an avid bird hunter, I would opt to have my dogs with me. After seeing a dog point a covey of Hungarian partridge at 70 yards and find dead pheasants buried in two feet of snow. A good hunting dog could feed you and himself very easily.
So it sounds like everyone is pro-dog. That is interesting because I would think that there would be a few nay sayers. As for me, I am on the fence with this one. Personally I could take one or leave one. I have a jack russel who is a hell of a small game hunter and she can definitely cover some ground and live off of almost nothing. She is definitely not a "tacticool" german shepherd, but she is no ankle bitter. That would not be her purpose though. She would fill the purpose of early warning and hunting. Just my $0.02
mbcollins,
You're right I am actually surprised at the number of readers who commented that they already have a dog and will be taking the along.
I guess being outdoorsy survival people really lends itself to being a dog owner.
If my Golden Retriever wasn't getting so on in years (14 now) she would definitely go with me anywhere.
I personally generally dislike dogs and judge them more on a case by case basis. The reason for this is that most dogs seem to be poorly trained (if at all) and bouncing off the walls which tends to annoy me. For some examples one friend had a beagle who would continuously paw you until you pet him and no matter how much you pet him he would continue to do it, another had a lab that would always run after you attacking your feet. My concern about having a dog would mostly be a stealth issue, I wouldn't want it giving away my position or scaring away game.
That being said there are dogs I like. The same friend with the beagle had a rottweiler that was probably my favorite dog that I've ever met but he was also well trained. He was a trained attack dog, trained to attack anyone who went after my friend or his dad but despite this was a very friendly and calm dog as long as you didn't threaten the people he protected. So I could certainly see the advantage of having a dog and I would say as long as the dog was well trained, obedient and useful I'd definitely take it with me. So really it all depends on the dog.
A well trained dog is a happy dog, a well trained dog is a live dog. Obey commands when given and you get yourself killed.
sorry, WON'T get killed, can't type sometimes.
Max, my Border Collie, will be with me where ever I go. He is a working dog (sheep) that hates coyotes, will try to herd deer and elk, is a constant companion and ever alert.
It would be nice to know that I could sleep at night knowing that he is on watch.
Ross,
I agree, besides companionship I think a dogs natural security senses are the biggest advantage for me. More so than hunting or fighting.
i would have to say Dog cause i could not think about leaving my family without her she loves my kids and would die to protect them i could not ask for a better protecter wile i am away. if i even leave my home and she is inside she checks on my boys atleast every half hour. same with my wife she keeps her eyes on her as well. and to think my yougest son rides her from one end of my house to the other every morning to use the head then he rides her back to bed its great.
Excellent point emerald. I sort of mentioned that in the article with companionship, but your point about the positive psychological effects in such a grey and depressing time is a good one.
Pre-historic man domesticated dogs before they domesticated cows. Clearly, they recognized the benefits dogs can provide, and if a better comparison to survival situations today can be found than ancient man’s everyday life, I don’t know what it is.
Hunting, scavenging, protection from predators, and the psychological impact of a loyal companion are all worth sharing food with a dog. By the way, they will drink out of puddles if necessary so unless you’re in an arid region, it presents little of a problem.
Brian,
Good point on the pre-historic example. Taking a dog seems to be the general consensus, which I was really kindve surprised by.
I agree psychological impact of a dog will help benefit you and most or all in your group from one time to another. Also if you kill some game they'll eat the scraps and gnaw at the left over bones an probably enjoy it better than their old kibbles. They call deer ditch rats where I live so I'm pretty confident that my dog would be more than please with some venison.
Canine domestication may have occurred accidentally, but otherwise, I agree.
Definitely take the dog. As mentioned abofe, a dog can carry its own food and water, and should be able to go anywhere that a human on foot with a pack can go. Breed ideally should be taken into consideration. Terriers Would be better for hunting small game, but might be a tactical disadvantage with their personality traits. Brachycephalic breeds(squashed face) would not be as good at getting ahold of their target. In general, any dog between 25 and 100 lbs. should be bi enough to provide protection but not be prone to hip issues that would make walking difficult. Mutts are also less prone to health issues. Lastly, good training is a must!
zschell,
yea hip issues is a big one to think about for large pure bred dogs. My golden has it pretty bad now and she has trouble getting up and down.
I should have mentioned training in the actually article (maybe as a con because it takes a lot of time?) There will be a huge difference between taking a well trained dog out with you, and an untrained house pet.
There is nothing that makes mutts safe from genetic flaws. Just as they carry genes from their parents for color, size, and temperament, they are just as likely to suffer genetic flaws as any other pure bred dog. At least with a pure bred dog, you know what genetic traits you may expect. This is an old myth.
It’s definitely not a myth. If a bad gene tends to lurk in say dalmations, and both of your parents are dalmations, then you are more likely to inherit the problem.
The reason is that most bad genetic things are recessive. Meaning that if you have one good copy from a parent and one bad copy. You’re ok. If you have bad ones from both, your screwed.
Another vote for the dogs. As has been said above, pick a working breed. I a female Malinois and male Shepherd / Retriever mix. Both are great dogs and members of the family. They each have different skill sets and motivations. They are a great deterrent from the unwanted. All you really need are their flea / tick meds and their food. In a pinch they can share our food.
Mike,
Good call on the flea and ticks meds. (and probably heart worm too). That's something I should have thought about in the article. Domesticated dogs have been with people too long to be totally unprotected in the wild.
These are pistol not shotgun but I thought they were kind of funny. I forget what movie it was (maybe Doomsday) this girl is running and firing pistols (one in each hand), to reload she throws the magazines up in the air (gotta love hollywood). Another is at the end of Zombieland when Woody Harrelson's character is fighting off the zombies (again a pistol in each hand) and stands up a bunch of magazines and to reload brings the guns down on them, this one I guess is plausible (I've only ever fired a shotgun so I don't really know) but would still be difficult to get the guns in exactly the right place to load the magazine rather than just knocking it over.
I think it's more a matter of training than breed – for example, we've got two weimaraners which come with distinct pros and cons. We've worked long and hard to train them not to bark at everything that moves, which is innate with there territorial instincts. Teaching them when to point, when to flush game, when to "get rowdy" as we call it, and most importantly when to be silent is what gives me confidence that they will be an asset when the time comes.
wade,
Sounds like you have a couple of awesome dogs. Taking the time to train your dogs properly is a huge investment in time and energy, but one that I think is very worthwhile.
I agree training is a must. If they don't even have basic training the dog will be more of a pain to take with than a benefit. My dog can't hunt but I'm confident in his training and he never leaves my side. I have had good dogs in several breeds an a mutt an only 1 of my labs would I have considered to leave behind due to training and health issues. As someone said before noise can be muzzled but an uncontrollable dog isn't very useful.
If you have a dog and it's still alive when God knows what happens, you should try and take it with you, if only for the warmth and comfort a dog can provide. I have a lab-greyhound mix that could probably chase down any animal she comes across and acts downright fearsome if she finds an intruder, but is often quiet and eats little due to her off metabolism. If you need a dog to be quiet in a disaster sitch, you could probably muzzle it with any cloth you have on hand.
Lab – Greyhound mix = I'm guessing a really big and really sweet dog that would protect you to the death.
I'd hate to have to muzzle my dog, but if that's what it takes. Even with lots of quality training sometimes dogs just refuse to be quiet.
Yeah, she is.
Since everyone's pretty much onboard with Taking dogs with them in a crisis I'd like to provide another question: What about cats? A good mouser would be good to keep rodents out of food storages, not to mention providing the food bonus of said animals, but would it be worth it?
I'll go ahead and say I really not a cat person (with a few rare exceptions) and I definitely can't see taking a cat in a Bug Out.
Bugging in might be a different story.
I’m in the market for a dog, and have been trying to decide between a lab and a greyhound. I never even considered a mix! This could be the answer to my prayers, ha. I grew up with a big goofy black lab who was as docile as anything, yet he would go nuts when any stranger got within a 50yd radius of me. Definitely missing that big guy
My dogs catch food all the time all on their own and always brings it back. I'm taking them with me.
Very cool. They are bringing you presents. It's amazing what they can do.
Food – get you some dehydrated food (search for The Honest Kitchen), it packs down to 1/10 the size of kibble, has a longer shelf life, and retains it's nutrition much longer than the others (plus it is much higher in nutrition to begin with!).
Breed- Dogs are my business, and I've seen breeds that most would pick as their ultimate survival dogs, but would crap when the shinola hit the fan! I've seen little ankle biters who would knock the black off a Rottweiler. Odds are you aren't going to pick your dog as a pet based on the notion of survival. You are going to pick what you like. Like a few others said prior, train your dog to be hardy out in nature and you will be doing it a huge favor should THAT time come. My 6lb Yorkie has no problem hanging with my Belgian Malinois on 6-8 mile hilly trail hikes. We raised her to be hardy and to obey off leash.
Training – Sound socialization and off-leash training should be a priority for all dog owners, regardless of the DEFCON level! Your good ole hunting dog is worthless to you if it tears off after birds when off-leash and won't respond to your commands, and that electric collar you've relied on for hunting birds in the field has an extremely limited battery life when it comes to weeks or months on the go. A properly socialized dog is not going to bark at every little thing or take off in fear at lightning strikes or trash cans getting knocked over. A well-balanced dog will work as a team to protect it's turf, and if you trained it right, will look to you as its Leader to decide if the person approaching is a threat before just going ape-sh!t.
I'm all for taking my dogs with me should THAT time come. I couldn't leave them! They can eat stuff we can't, they have 4 times better hearing than we do, which makes those lonely nights a little less stressful, and most can help chase down rabbits, squirrels, and even some birds (given they have prey drive). However, if my dogs were not able to make any technical journey then I would reevaluate the big picture before deciding to drag them through something that would be detrimental to everyone. I'm preying THAT day doesn't come.
JC,
Thanks for your insight as someone who really knows dogs.
I like that you emphasis training because I continue to say that is the most overlooked aspect for all dog owners, regardless of survival plans.
I know this post will be lost in the noise by the time I have posted it. But training in this thread is important. My lab was trained to respond to agressivness. My wife was deaf in one ear and had a newborn. We didn't need a dog who barked at every leaf, but wanted one who could assess a situation. He was trained appropriately – but WAS SURELY SELF AWARE. He was housebroken, by HIMSELF, in 10 days. He never raised his paws or jumped except on me when playing. If I chased my child, the dog ran past me and confronted me as a barrier.
Why do I brag on a dog who died years ago and my friends still talk about? Because he was THAT GOOD. Purebred- mutt – I've had them all. Good and bad, trained or not ( my current dogs cannot roll over) – under stress, they will protect you. I believe that. They may not attack, but the alarm will go up. Just tonight, my beagle growled at a pile of lumber after sniffing around, no doubt another mouse in the basement….
Can you post a link for this food?
Lots of good points have been posted, Personally, I vote for the working dog. I have had several Brittanies and they are the all-around hunting dog. They can be trained to track, point, retrieve, flush, and are close working dogs. They can range in size from 25 to 85 pounds. My experience is they do not bark a lot and are eggar to please their master. On the down side most Brittanies have a softer personality and in some animals a hitting the dog or being to harsh can undo a lot of training. They are good with kids. A 25 to 40 pound Brittany would provide the same hunting ability but would be less intimidating than a larger Brittany. Smaller dog=less food.They can help keep you fed (for example a squirrel will keep its attention on the dog from the other side of a tree, walk around and bang squirrel stew. A dog will keep you warm on a cold night. It is more of matter of you training the dog properly. Also a female will provide you with a barter item (puppies) in the long term A dog needs to be trained not to be gun shy or to mess with a snake. The down side is a female will go into heat twice a year and will attract any male in the area. Dinner if you are inclined to do so. You should have a first aid kit just for your dog and he should understand hand and arm signals as well (tactical). Certain breeds are prone to different aliment (Hip displacement) and should be x-rayed or certified before buying. ALWAYS buy from a reputable breeder. Remember a dog will usually live for 10 to 16 years (In a civilized environment) A dog is a long term commitment and it costs a good deal of money to provide them with the proper medical care training and equipment. Flea collars/medical supplies. Owning a dog, especially for survival scenario is a series of difficult choices, so do your homework before hand. Be willing to invest a lot of time and effort and you will have a dependable loyal friend for life who will accept you for who you are. You will probably a hard time to convince the wife and kids to eat Fido.
CDD,
Lots of good info here, thanks for the comment.
I like your idea about training the dog to arm and hand signals. That's one I've never thought of, but it's a great idea.
Dogs are great to have around the house. I have two, a german sheppard who guards outside and a lab that guards inside. However, if shtf and I take these two dogs they are going to do what they have been taught, that is to bark at intruders. So if i'm trying to hide my family in the woods from others who would do us harm, I will not take them. They will give our position away and therefore bring harm to my family. Having said that, if you have trained your dog not to bark or if you have surgically removed the larynx from the dog, and taught them not to run off or run after game, by all means i would take them. There are other ways of knowing when the dog alerts. Just a thought
Rhodesian Ridgeback is the Best survival dog. It is like the Navy Seals of dog breeds and can keep up with a running horse for 30 miles. Great heat and cold tolerance. Least amount health problems. heres more info ps DONT get this dog if you a "you have to hit your dog to train it" types or a my dog is my child this bread Wont respond to that!
heres the link http://xml.truveo.com/rd?i=3641246878&a=82030…
Nope.I have the perfect dog.He's Rott/Pit bull.Smart,doesn't bark. Not aggressive but won't run.He can catch game or trail it. Can get by on almost nothing if necessary. Loyal to a fault.
Inside/outside dog.
not many peaple know of the dogo argentino but it would be very good in a survival situation
can be very pertective has a very strong prey drive but needs a strong owner
i have a German Shepherd (jack) that i trained to hunt. then had police training with my uncle (police chef) as a backup k9 unit. I’m taking my dog with me. since he was trained to hunt he points in stead of barking so hes very quiet when i tell hem to be.
Don't have a dog but will be getting one. I'm getting older and a dog or dogs just add to my families defenses and protection. Trained right and one of each male and female from different breeders Good to Go. Check out California Karelians also know as Bear dogs. Not giving anything away but my safe spots have Big bears and wolves around.
Food…you can always eat your dog.
My lab/bloodhound mix is definitely coming. This guy tracks and flushes game everywhere we go, can go for miles over terrain that makes me want to quit, and is the best security system ever. Noy only is he an asset but a member of my family. Besides he has a backpack and packs his own gear!
Of course, I WILL take my dog. She is well socialized and a joy to be around. But, when a threat is perceived, she is 130 pounds of bad attitude. The South African Boerboel breed is totally committed to family protection/farm protection. She is obedience and protection trained (to help her to distinguish a threat from a non-threat). The breed needs no attack training. More bite strength than a pit bull and almost twice the weight. She is a machine when she needs to be. As long as I have food, she will also have food.
Another vote for the dogs, there good friends I trust a dog more than most people.
Only a aimed firearm causes more hesitation than a motivated German Shepherd.
We have a mini dachshund who thinks he's a rottweiler! He has brought me squirrels, mice, rats he has caught and killed. He is very protective of our family and would alert at any threat which presented.
I have bought a 30ft lead and a body harness with handle on top just so we could take him with if SHTF. Let out on lead and reel him in and pick him up and go if things get too hairy!
Anyone who says this dog would be no good in survival mode is crazy! Plus he's a part of my family so why would I even think about leaving him behind?!
We have a mini dachshund who thinks he's a rottweiler! He has brought me squirrels, mice, rats he has caught and killed. He is very protective of our family and would alert at any threat which presented.
I have bought a 30ft lead and a body harness with handle on top just so we could take him with if SHTF. Let out on lead and reel him in and pick him up and go if things get too hairy!
Anyone who says this dog would be no good in survival mode is crazy! Plus he's a part of my family so why would I even think about leaving him behind?!
The full size were originally bred to corner badgers, which I understand are quite vicious when attacked. You pulled the dog out of the badger hole by his tail. That's why they are so determined nd love game hunting. If you can carry him when his little legs and back are tired, I say go for it! Good for you.
I definitely say bring the dog or try to acquire one if the S**t hits the fan. Working breeds Definitely would be a safer and smarter bet but beware of breeds with Health issues like boxers or even Dobbermans have been known to be bleeders if they even get a tiny wound they could die, not like there will be any vets readily available. Don't overlook pitbulls they may have a bad reputation but thy are an excellent all purpose breed. I like the idea of having a Ridgeback too they are fearless .I think the morale aspect of having a dog outweighs the risks involved. Better get a pup and start training!!!!! A big decision involves the coat of the dog short or long and your seasonal climate.
I have four HUGE Dogs, a pyranese, female, a rhodesian ridgeback, female, and two male malamutes, combined they can haul me, all my gear, and have room left over for another person. They are all young, strong, silent, and I have seen each of them take on four or more (7 once, but i ended up shooting one to even the odds) coyotes at once and walk away from it unharmed. Yes, in case you missed that, thats ONE of the malamutes vs six coyotes.
They really dont eat much, if you stick to 30 percent meat, 30 percent grains, and 40 percent vegetables. They actually, combined, eat maybe 3 thousand calories a day.
Id rather have them along than an extra human, sure they cant actually talk, or use opposable thumbs, but they are far more useful imo.
I actually have some very light armor for them, just a certain fabric that folds around them in the vital areas. Weighs about a half pound per dog, but It will keep them alive if they fight anything around here (biggest non human predator is a wolf)
Depends on the dog. I saw a thing on T.V. about mutts. They were shown around the world as the healthiest, best surviving and easiest to take care of. Perhaps someone looking for a new dog might consider the pounds mutts. Globally the most successful mutts were a little less than medium sized, had large up pointing ears and a short to medium tail that also pointed up.
For dry food I use kibble that is made from human grade food ingredients. Could double as backup food for us if needed. The venison stuff reminds me of beef jerky. It has dried chicory root in it to fight parasites as well as vitamins and minerals. I sell it on the side… Good stuff.
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yes I'm taking ours with us I and my family has spent alot of time training our 4 month old lab to find and root out rodents and has actully caught a live duck while we were teaching him to water retreave , this doesn't take much proding but getting a lab to bring whatever it is back to you is the trick they usualy want you to chase them to get it so if you have a young lab work on this. do some blank practice to take the gun shy thing away . other than that proper training and work . most working dogs will be in they're glory when they are workin g so its best to use this to train. all dogs are by nature predators so if you and your family are seen as they're pack than you should train as a pack we taught our dog with whistles clicks and hand signals
I think another bonus to having a dog is warmth. I have a big chocolate lab and he really can keep a cold tent warm.
I'm partial to a boxer. Good size/strength/intelligence/agility. (and cute)
I have a dog right now so if i had to get out he'd come with. I can see problems with dogs I know many a dog with out a ounce of training. We all know them and hopefully very few of us have a dog like that because then the decision gets much harder. Thankfully my dog has been well trained unfortunately not as a hunting dog but listens to the basic commands and some advanced ones perfectly.
For the benefit of helping alert and watch for evil doers and companionship a good trained dog will be a benefit. This is tenfold if you have to get out of dodge on your own. Where I live water wouldn't be a problem so we'd do fine on that front food would be a different story. But then again they'll thankfully eat the scraps you don't want. Many breeds will do fine and most will fiercely defend you and your family to the last of its breath. For me all save for 1 dog I have had the benefits far out weigh any negative in this category.
Out of my various bug out locations, one is an old underground train station that nobody knows about anymore, another is a mine, and either of those could be rat infested, my dog is coming with me, and will be able to feed himself for weeks.
Only issue with pure breeds like ridgebacks is that they have alot of medical issues or are more likely to develop them then a mix.
i have to hungarian vislas(both purebreed) and they have some medical issues(one has allergies and the other a genetic issue that disqualified them from being bred) their great dogs and are excellent hunters(they are made for bird hunting) they also like to chase and kill small game(dosent help when you live in the suburbs(watch out for your cats
) but the only issue besides those medical issues is that they are a very *sensitive* breed and you cannot really start their training till their about 2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizsla
i would think that it would be cool to breed one with a rhodesian so that they have super bad ass kids
Definitely include dogs in my plan. I and my wife have four of different breeds and sizes, and they all would come in handy for different situations. Security, hunting, food at the last resort.
But the best thing of all would be thier companionship, to ease the mental strain. As one of the hardest things for survival is the ability to maintain your composure and think straight in your situation and with your dogs with you, this would give you a sense of normalcy to be able to keep your head straight on path and in the game in which you are trying to make the best out of a possible bad survival situation
I would without a doubt be taking my dog. He carries his own pack, keeps me on pace, good company, help warm you if it gets really cold, good warning system, and if it came down to it you could eat him. I have a hard time even thinking about that option. There are a few negatives though, I've heard one to many stories in AK about bears getting after peoples dogs and the dogs running to the owner and right between his legs with the bear following, so I usually carry a .44 with hollow points in the woods. On the other side of that if a grizzly comes into your camp at night the dog will let you know
We own 3 dogs. @ are mixed american pit terriers and the third is a choclate springer spaniale The springer has never been trained for hunting but has strong hunting instincts.The 2 pits are not related We have a 4 year old male and about a 7 month old female.The female is not fixed and is very alert and protective. The 4 year old is also but more low key. My dogs are coming with me and the family..
I go for the larger breeds. Have a Newfoundland/Great Pyrenees cross, at 19 months she is just over 100 pounds, solid on hand commands, quiet unless she needs to be noisy, and being Big and Black she is rather intimidating. Here is the odd part, she only eats between 2 and 3 cups of food a day? Also have a Catahoula in the family, he weighs about 80 # and eats between 5 and 7 cups of food?! Train a larger dog to carry a pack (painters really), and they can carry a LOT of weight. Mine can carry a couple hundred rounds of .308, enough food for 10 days, all her own water, and about 15# of other gear. She can go as far as I can in a days walk. I sure wouldn't leave home w/o her!
Another useful animal is a cat. I don't know if I would bug out with one, but when you are settled somewhere they make a great rodent control. In some cases of stravation the cat will bring you rodents to eat. I once had a cat who had this habit. Rodents are a big problem when you are protecting your food stash. Since they eat rodents you won't have to feed them.
We live in bear country and have a ridgeback/elkhound and a mastiff/akida. When in the woods, and we are regularly, they are with us. When they perceive an unknown they are between us and the question. As to extra food etc. they both have panniers for their own food and supplies. They are strong, so could pull a cart or sled if necessary. Definite visible deterrents to any bad acters. Can be quiet and obtrusive or "in your face". Are head strong and not for the untrained owner. They question you constantly and expect you to be alpha, else they will be. Have gone as far and as fast as we could go. Experience tells me that a well trained, fit owner/dog team would be an asset in a survival situation.
The military has used dogs for early alert. I’dgo with a dog. The only real negatives are barking at the wrong time and unwanted movement. You don’t have to feed a dog. They’ll eat crud that would drop a mule.
I have a male catahoula and he stays with me all day, he goes to work with me and he sleeps in the bed at night. He is an excellent hunter and an even better gaurd dog. He has proven that he will protect me in more than one situation and almost attacked me when i was play wrestling with the kids in the yard. He is only around 55 pounds and doesnt eat that much. And he also catches some of his own food. I wouldnt hesitate or think twice about taking him anywhere in a bug out situation.
Shackleton and Scott had such a horrendous time using dogs in the Antarctic. Dog-food got tainted, and sick and dying dogs was bad for men’s moral too. They had to kill the weakest dogs and feed them to the stronger ones, and they didn’t have enough bullets. It seems they might have eaten some of the dogs on one occasion at least. This finally convinced them to leave dogs at home and pull their own sled. On the extreme other hand, Amundsen did the dog thing right, and beat them all to the pole.
I guess that illustrates that dogs are a plus in a survival situation, but can as easily be done wrong enough to cause fiasco.
Lot’s of people have mentioned Rhodesian Ridgebacks, but nobody has talked about the farm invasions in Zimbabwe where they come from. To ground this hypothetical debate out in some cold hard reality: Lots of farmers were driven off their land, attacked, murdered, under siege etc., in short, given good reasons to bug-out. Lots of people tried to take their dogs along, though some dogs had to be sacrificed as diversions to keep the fleeing families alive. Many people were still trying to find out the whereabouts or save dogs they lost or had to leave behind once they were safely out of the country. After losing everything, few could afford quarantine to get their dogs emigrated with them. Large numbers of dogs were given up for adoption in neighbouring South Africa, especially where the owners emigrated to OZ or New-Zealand.
Then the horror stories started surfacing about how the farm invaders had abused, tortured and slaughtered dogs they found after driving the farm owners off the land. When the people were out of reach, they vented their hatred on the dogs.
I adopted my dog after he was abused and neglected by a previous owner. He’s is old and not very healthy. I’ve carried him home a time or two when he’s been unable to complete the walk around the block. I can not take him with me if I have to run, and I’d rather take his life than let him be abused by people who hate me.
In his day though, there just wouldn’t be a question, he’d be a huge asset.
dogs are awesome! i would love to have a lab, but i dont.
You all will laugh at this one!!! Our Chihuahua is the most aggressive girl we've had so far (and we've had a Germ Shep, Pit, Beagle and Golden Ret). This "ankle bitter" is meaner and more aggressive than all the others. She's portable, barks at everything that moves (unlike our bigger dogs), has killed several squirrels, a crow, rats and is willing to take on big prey (neighborhood German Sheps, Dobies and others). If she had to, she'd eat only what she can catch. I've worked under a dog trainer who specialized in the sale and training of German bred guard dogs (for the military and private owners)…great dogs, great companions, undeniably loyal to the end. In all seriousness, we'd take both. They are family members and just like those that have useful skill sets when the going gets tough, they also have something to contribute. Laughter being one thing and we'll all need that!
My dog is 6 lbs, wears a pink sweater and has a plate in her leg. Pro: great conversation piece if you happen to come across a starving hot girl in the desert. Con: I have a girlfriend so that won't work well and the two girls would just end up talking to each other. Pro: Possibility of a survival three way. Con: When was the last time we all showered? Pro: I don't have to shower before or after the three way.
Depends on your situation and needs . If your staying put , might not be a bad idea if you plan for its care . If your on the move ,and trying to keep a low profile , they are probably going to be more of a hindrance than a help .
the dog can hunt for you
The value of a well trained dog seems obvious. I can't imagine mine not being with me.
However, one thing I haven't seen discussed yet – I work about 20 miles from my home. Do I backtrack and pick up my pooch before heading out to my bug out location, or go straight to my bug out location?
He might not be there by the time I make it back. Thoughts?
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If we go by the group of these mobile connections, we come across that they are divided in accordance with the use. As there is cellular broadband, there is also home broadband. Now that is where by elements are turning in favour for the shoppers.
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As mobile lovers tend to consider that the greatest supplier is the one particular that fulfill the requirement of its prospects, in today’s occasions, there has been incredible energy to continue to keep the costs significantly down. Now that is the place an person enjoys profitable cellular cellphone deals as a consequence.
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Verizon gives you quite a few techniques to connect your laptop computer, netbook or other Net able device to the Internet. I will briefly describe the most common techniques of giving 3G World wide web.
Verizon’s MiFi Transportable 3G World wide web Hotspot:
I have personally utilised the Verizon MiFi to supply superior pace 3G World wide web entry to my laptop computer and my wife’s netbook even though I traveled. The MiFi is a transportable wireless 3G World wide web router and can offer broadband Net services to up to five wireless World-wide-web capable products. It is quite smaller, about the size of a half a deck of cards, and has a rechargeable battery. Wireless setup was quick and the MiFi carried out flawlessly. The value for the data program in 2010 was about $60 for five Gigabytes of info per month.
Verizon 3G Net Wise Phones:
You can use any of Verizon’s 3G smartphones to deliver Online entry to your laptop or maybe other wireless Online devices, depending on the capabilities of your 3G smartphone. Several of the most recent smartphones have 3G mobile hotspot capabilities. Three well-known choices are:
? Motorola Droid X? Samsung Fascinate? Palm Pre As well as
I presently use the Palm Pre As well as simply because Verizon supplied a free of charge 3G cellular hotspot package offer for as long as I preserve the cellular phone. The other mobile hotspot able phones differ in what Verizon fees for the hotspot feature.
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In accordance a survey executed in the field of cellular VoIP, Asia has emerged as the quickest rising telecommunication sector with annual development costs in extra of 30% across the area.
Every single 7 out 10 subscribers are using prepaid cellular phones to make calls. Recently penetrated markets with initially time cellular consumers have proven a great improve in selection of pre-compensated mobile consumers. According to a survey conducted amid the mobile cellular phone customers, 70% of the total mobile market is prepaid people. This selection is expected to grow by a third by the mid of this decade. Most subscribers in the Asia Pacific area opt for prepaid companies. Purpose is motive plenty of- The services is quick, simple and reasonably priced.
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Limitless discuss time & Huge option of pre-compensated mobile cards to buy from
With range of pre-compensated cards and availability of most flexible plans because of to opposition between support providers to acquire each single pre-paid consumer, has benefited the user in several a ways. Most of the mobile services suppliers are right now supplying unlimited area minutes on the same network, limitless long distance minutes no cost on certain ideas and or the mix of each.
Free of charge text messaging
Numerous folks discover text message a superior way t link and receiving back again in touch. Based upon the supplier you selected, you could get no cost text messages, limitless messaging or a blend of each.
Totally free alerts
A single can pretty nicely go for the pre-compensated cellular cellphone connection if 1 desires time-to-time stability alerts. Now days, almost all service providers are providing the absolutely free SMS company alert for pre-compensated mobiles users. The motive is incredibly basic- to persuade the end users to recharge the speak time of their mobile phone as they can drain it anytime. Just about every time you conclusion an outgoing get in touch with built from your mobile, you get a provider alert on your mobile phone’s display that displays the present balance of your pre-paid cellular card.
As a matter of point and as per tips furnished by telecom regulatory authority, just about every pre-paid card has a marked selling total price and fixed offered talk time following deduction of taxes (service tax and people). It is also straightforward to keep an eye on your expenditure as what ever you devote on your cellular phone’s funds, is pre-compensated and regulates it a bit.
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-Who is the services provider.-What are their services.-What are their programs include things like.-What are the pricing alternatives available.
Well, the procedure has also engulfed the other sectors as nicely. This includes broadband as properly. As a result, the best foremost cellular broadband companies are coming with lucrative deals. Immediately after productively changing the dial-up connections, they have been in the limelight for combating the slow connectivity. These companies generally come up with lucrative options, which allure more and far more cellular lovers all-around the earth. Now, this is what makes it quick for the cellular lovers to strike the finest offer. However, there are few top companies these kinds of as Vodafone, Orange, O2, 3 cellular, Virgin and T-mobile, which are offering unique mobile cellphone offers with rewarding cellular broadband provides. Now that is where by it gets essential as we enter into a lower throat competitors where there are sufficient of mobile broadband companies.
If we go by the class of these cellular connections, we uncover that they are divided in accordance with the utilization. As there is mobile broadband, there is also house broadband. Now that is where by elements are turning in favour for the customers.
Having said that, if a person is going for a broadband connection, he or she ought to preserve many factors in thoughts. Whilst taking into consideration about the greatest broad band suppliers, he ought to pondered above the a variety of mobile mobile phone offer. In point, he want to analyze the fundamental conditions at the initial hand.
As mobile lovers have a tendency to consider that the finest supplier is the 1 that fulfill the requirement of its prospects, in today’s instances, there has been remarkable effort to maintain the selling prices considerably down. Now that is exactly where an person enjoys rewarding mobile cellphone bargains as a end result.
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The introduction of the net has transformed the lives of a lot of and numerous folks are now heading for the mobile broadband. Many businesses supply mobile broadband and it is thus important for the user to be careful when selecting them. There are a quantity of elements they require to contemplate in advance of generating their choices.
One of the most crucial is the price of the services, It is crucial that the people decide on the business that can supply them with solutions that are worthy of their revenue. It is therefore crucial for the person to assess and contrast the numerous charges of distinct organizations so that they can make the best selection. It is also critical that they look at out for these corporations tat cost more or concealed charges. Also, they can request the company to list down the companies that are underneath that value so that they know what they are spending for.
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Pre-Compensated Calling Added benefits and dependability
According a survey executed in the area of cellular VoIP, Asia has emerged as the fastest growing telecommunication current market with yearly development rates in excess of 30% across the region.
Each and every seven out ten subscribers are making use of prepaid mobile phones to make calls. Recently penetrated markets with 1st time cellular end users have proven a very good enhance in selection of pre-paid cellular users. According to a survey carried out amid the cellular cell phone people, 70% of the complete mobile industry is prepaid people. This number is expected to develop by a 3rd by the mid of this decade. Most subscribers in the Asia Pacific area want prepaid services. Good reason is motive plenty of- The service is rapid, easy and cost-effective.
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Availability of versatile options- Availability of flexi & frequently altering strategies has accelerated the constant growth of pre-compensated mobile mobile phone consumers. People are delighted mainly because they have no liability towards services providers and challenges like security quantity, crossing the credit score limit (if bill is not paid in time) or indication up for a lengthy contract doesn’t bother the consumer much now. Thanks to flexi options and the levels of competition they carry. For cellular consumers with bad or bad credit, prepaid phones are the ideal selection to go cellular with.
Nationwide protection
There are at least 3 major motives that you will need to know about prepaid mobile phone ideas. Very first, no credit look at is essential for these programs 2nd, most programs will give you limitless nights & weekends, no cost calling on the exact network and 3rd, they have nationwide network protection to other cell telephone customers. Now pre-compensated mobile mobile phone users have liberty to roam all over cities in the exact region with out caring considerably for roaming expenses in lots of areas.
Limitless speak time & Vast choice of pre-paid cellular cards to get from
With wide variety of pre-compensated cards and availability of most versatile programs due to opposition amid support suppliers to acquire every last single pre-compensated user, has benefited the person in numerous a approaches. Most of the mobile company suppliers are right now supplying limitless local minutes on the exact network, limitless very long distance minutes free on selected strategies and or the combination of both.
Free text messaging
Quite a few persons discover text message a better way t connect and getting back again in touch. Dependent on the supplier you selected, you may possibly get free text messages, limitless messaging or a mixture of each.
Free alerts
One particular can pretty nicely go for the pre-compensated cellular cellphone connection if a person requirements time-to-time stability alerts. Now days, nearly all company suppliers are providing the absolutely free SMS provider alert for pre-compensated mobiles end users. The motive is very simple- to persuade the customers to recharge the speak time of their mobile phone as they can drain it anytime. Every single time you stop an outgoing call produced from your cellular, you get a service alert on your cellular phone’s display that displays the current balance of your pre-paid mobile card.
As a issue of reality and as per tips furnished by telecom regulatory authority, every single pre-paid card has a marked offering value and fixed accessible discuss time just after deduction of taxes (services tax and some others). It is also effortless to retain an eye on your expenditure as whichever you devote on your mobile phone’s funds, is pre-compensated and regulates it a bit.
Prior to opting for a pre-paid mobile mobile phone strategy, test the subsequent-
-Who is the company supplier.-What are their companies.-What are their ideas include.-What are the pricing solutions accessible.
Pre-Paid Calling Added benefits and dependability
According a survey performed in the subject of cellular VoIP, Asia has emerged as the fastest increasing telecommunication market with annual expansion rates in excess of 30% across the area.
Each 7 out ten subscribers are applying prepaid cellular phones to make calls. Newly penetrated markets with to begin with time cellular users have proven a very good boost in quantity of pre-paid cellular users. According to a survey carried out amid the mobile cell phone customers, 70% of the complete cellular marketplace is prepaid customers. This amount is expected to increase by a 3rd by the mid of this decade. Most subscribers in the Asia Pacific area prefer prepaid services. Explanation is cause sufficient- The provider is swift, quick and cost-effective.
Irrespective of no matter if prepaid is your dominant industry section, an individual cannot deny that this is the fastest developing customer base. At any time wondered, what is fueling this development and how can this trajectory proceed? Let’s find out here.
Availability of adaptable strategies- Availability of flexi & constantly changing ideas has accelerated the steady progress of pre-paid mobile cellphone consumers. Users are satisfied mainly because they have no liability in the direction of company suppliers and problems like protection quantity, crossing the credit limit (if bill is not compensated in time) or sign up for a lengthy contract doesn’t bother the user significantly now. Thanks to flexi plans and the competition they provide. For cellular consumers with bad or very poor credit, prepaid phones are the greatest option to go cellular with.
Nationwide protection
There are at minimum 3 primary reasons that you must know about prepaid cell phone programs. 1st, no credit score test is required for these options 2nd, most options will give you limitless nights & weekends, free of charge calling on the exact network and 3rd, they have nationwide network protection to other cell cellular phone end users. Now pre-paid cellular cell phone consumers have liberty to roam around cities in the similar nation without having caring a lot for roaming expenses in numerous locations.
Limitless speak time & Vast decision of pre-paid mobile cards to acquire from
With assortment of pre-paid cards and availability of most adaptable ideas due to competition among services providers to acquire every last single pre-paid user, has benefited the person in many a tactics. Most of the mobile support providers are today providing limitless nearby minutes on the similar network, unlimited lengthy distance minutes no cost on particular ideas and or the blend of the two.
Cost-free text messaging
Quite a few individuals locate text message a much better way t link and obtaining back again in touch. Dependent on the supplier you chose, you might get totally free text messages, limitless messaging or a mix of each.
No cost alerts
A single can quite perfectly go for the pre-paid cellular cellphone connection if 1 desires time-to-time stability alerts. Now days, almost all provider providers are offering the cost-free SMS services alert for pre-compensated mobiles users. The motive is quite very simple- to persuade the consumers to recharge the speak time of their cellular phone as they can drain it anytime. Every time you stop an outgoing contact made from your mobile, you get a company alert on your cellular phone’s display screen that displays the current stability of your pre-paid cellular card.
As a matter of truth and as per guidelines supplied by telecom regulatory authority, every pre-paid card has a marked marketing selling price and fixed out there chat time immediately after deduction of taxes (support tax and other individuals). It is also straightforward to retain an eye on your expenditure as no matter what you invest on your mobile phone’s spending budget, is pre-compensated and regulates it a bit.
Before opting for a pre-paid mobile cellular phone program, check out the subsequent-
-Who is the support supplier.-What are their solutions.-What are their ideas include things like.-What are the pricing selections obtainable.
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The only problem with eating the dog is that if you wait till the dog is starving to eat him you can make yourself sick, when the dog starts to starve his body starts eating his own muscles and the dog develops aciddosis wich a dog can tolerate to a much higher degree than humans. When Amundsen went to the south pole he had to kill his dogs on a set schedule before they were starving so he didn't posion anybody.
my dogs carry their own packs, food , water and spare gear so they are helpful little beasties
but it took them a while to get used to the added weight.
I have a genius of a small dog, who doesn't bark, but if you attack any of his family, he will attack you immediately back. Low Food intake, no bark, wonderful hunter, Good dog.
I read most of the posts on here and was surprised one has said anything about dogs they actually take hunting with them. I have two Brittanys I use for bird hunting and they would most definitely be going with me.
Debate all you want – one old quote says it all "MAN'S BEST FRIEND"
Depends on the dog … not the breed, but the individual dog. One of my survival role models was a gunfighter in the old west. He spent alot of time alone, so he trained a little white mutt to sit on the withers of his horse and to wake him up whenever anyone approached. Not by barking, but by licking his face. This tactic saved his life more than once. The small dog was essentially a portable silent alarm system and companion.
I had an elkound as a kid. Best companion ever. Loyal and fearless.
I think you have a responsibility to take care of your dog in any situation. When you become a dog owner, your that animals only life line. Domesticated dogs are like their cat counterparts. theyve become dependent on us for not only food but love and affection. While cats could care less, and they could probably readapt to their ancestral instincts pretty quickly.
Dogs arent simply just animals theyre part of the family. Theyre extraordinarily loyal, and should be given the same loyalty. If your not willing to take care of a dog in any disaster situation then you should get a dog at all.
I am taking my dog. Yeah I'd probably need to feed him but I have planned for that with some The Honest Kitchen dehydrated food(which is also human grade so if push came to shove I could eat it too) He already more than keeps up with me on hikes, the intimidation factor of a tiny girl with a Rott also makes me feel justified in keeping him based on that alone. And I am always cold and he is very good at being a heater.
Remember that most but not all will protect and attack if their family is in danger. I had a mut border color and a Shepard/husky mix that were super smart and can be counted on for anything. I also had a pure bread shepherd that was wurthles. At leased he had slot of meat on him.
Bring the dog! Hands down the best choice possible. They can carry, work, and in a pinch.. they don't mind keeping your feet warm. Open your fart sack and find one dog that one race to the bottom. They eat everything. And the deader the better. Herd dogs are my prefered breed. Heelers, Shelties, or any dog that can work a herd. They'll help you hunt, tree, fetch, and they don't care how bad you stink, they dont' care you didn't catch any fish, and they don't care how drunk or what time you came home. They just missed you. 5 minutes or 5 weeks. It's all the same to them. People should take a lesson from dogs.
Lot of interesting thought put into all of this. But nobody said what they will do if they have to leave their dog behind. I agree that you have a responsibility to your animal, but sadly the reality is that self-preservation should be your priority. We have two little ones, a full size older dachshund and a deaf boston terrier (smush faced dog.) There's no way the dachshund could make it. She's dying from a heart condition and tires easily. Weighs too much to carry. So, what's our plan?
We will walk out with the dogs, and let her go in the woods, to give her a fair chance. Otherwise, she'll starve, or run in front of a car. Dachshunds are great hunters. We'll take the Boston as far as we can, and decide if we need to cut him loose. Odds are he'll follow us on his own, and scavenge for his food. What's the alternative? Leave them to die of starvation and thirst, as many pets did in Katrina? Or to get killed by wild packs of dogs that will form? Or be killed and eaten by those who stay behind? I'd rather give him a fighting chance outside of an urban area. If you don't want to take these guys, are you prepared to humanely put them down? Can you bring yourself to shoot your dog? If it was my best option, I could (like Old Yeller) , but I'm hoping it's not my best option. And BTW, be sure and familiarize yourself with the signs of rabies, because if TEOTWAWKI happens, wildlife will eventually spread rabies to the wild dog population, or even your own dog who hunts beside you.
Thanks for bringing this up, I posted a similar question before I saw your comment.
I personaly believe it would be a good idea. Exspecialy. If it is we trained. A friend of mine owns a pit, dobermen, rot mix and it only barks when sombody it dosent know approches. And with its looks and breed mix it makes it looks more vishious then it is. But it is quite a nice dog. As well as they took it hunting so it was trained and when ever it herd a noise it would point for about 30 sec or so befor barking inless the owner said something to it. I think the pros of having one out waighes the cons of having a dog. And they know how to fend for themselve
Okay, I've read a bunch of comments most seem to be discussing the value of a trained, young dog.But would you take your pet house dog? My dog is not trained to hunt or track or guard or anything. I know my answer, I wonder what your's is.."Do you take your pet dog?Not the hypothetical one the one you actually have right now?"
I think the only two critical things for taking a dog with you would be:
1. Is he generally quiet (not a hysterical nonstop source of noise)?
2. Does he obey basic commands like sit/stay/heel/come here?
If he can be controlled without a physical leash/collar, and he doesn't bark all the time (attracting attention and making it impossible to tell if there is a real threat), then he doesn't have to be trained to hunt or fight.
I'm another vote for 'take the dog, yes' as long as it meets those two minimum requirements. The benefits of having a dog along, any type/breed/size, far outweigh the logistical problems – as long as you can control him hands free, and he doesn't spend all his time making noise for no good reason.
my response to this is simple yes no matter the dog breed,or size…..you would be remarkably surprised what a dog can do sometimes an they have instincts they can tap into that could surprise you …ive read stories of simple lap,toy dogs traveling miles across harsh terrain to find their owners an survive after a hurricane,flood or being lost …..if they can do that alone think about what they can bring to the table…… dont underestimate them
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I remember my paper route as a kid. When I came to a house that had a barking or growling dog, that guy didn't get his paper that day and I went home sweating and in need of a new pair of underwear. I hated dogs that were scary growing up. now, I just look at them and put a .45 between their eyes and proceed (only if it was in the same scenario, not just because)
In defense of all dogs in sizes and breeds, if a shtf scenario and I am on the run and by myself… man or not, I will be partially stressed and at times scared and if dogs do then what mine does now, they are someone to talk to and bring joy into your hearts. It might be worth feeding the food just to keep yours around for companionship so you are not alone. There are a lot of other reasons like flushing out the hunted food and guard dogs etc. but you can't ignore the fuzzy security and warmth in your heart of your dog. Unless your not an animal lover and think of them and just droolers and crappers that their only life's goal is to be fed and chained up outside and never really have contact with many humans. Then, whats the point of surviving?
I've never though about my dogs in a bug out situation and raise my dogs to be very social, like bringing them to the dog park atleast a few times a week, However I think my American bulldog has the territorial instinct and would rip a intruder to sheds to protect me. She is a great watch dog, though very timid when it comes to things like paper bags or boxes around the house, when she hears or see someone or something that is a lil sketchy she shows it!!!! If you saw a mean american bulldog, you'd crap your pants. My Boxer though, hes still a puppy but I think he doesnt have a mean bone in his body. But he is super smart and could potentially know the difference between survival and everyday life. He is very trainable and agile. Defense, Go with an american bulldog and go one step further and get the "guard dog training" or whatever it is and these smart BULL dogs can and will take down anything in its way in a controlled manner. I just want to add a note for the american bulldog and any other bully breed or working dog like rots or whatever. You have to train them not to show aggression towards you or other humans. If you want to wrestle with the dog, USE A TUG A WAR ROPE ( which they enjoy and can be a good exercise for you) take bones,food and toys away from them when they are eating so they don't get aggressive, All in how you raise them. The little dogs are the worst cause owners think that they are cute and avoid the dog ISSUES and the little dogs turn to crazy annoying dogs. Im pro dog. I live in the city too without a fence and i let my dogs out to play and do there thing, mostly supervised. But we do have alot of walkers on the side walk that I try to get my dogs in the house if I see them so the walkers dont feel uncomfortable
pitbulls……..dont buy into the bs about them ….they are loyal,tough as all hell,need little to survive,an are very big with companionship….oh an they are very very intelligent an very protective of their group…..very obedient good dogs when raised the correct way
I really have to agree. Of course, I've known some medium/large dogs that just…. won't….. stop!!!… when they get going. It's an anxiety thing that is nothing but a liability in the field. Any dog that can obey basic commands and won't "verbally" freak out when something startles them may well be worth their salt. Otherwise…. dog tacos?
LOL! Oh, Wade. My parents have had weimaraners since I was living at home with them. Both Grays and Blues. I know EXACTLY what you mean by "distinct pros and cons". haha. They're super smart dogs, but man, they need serious working out or they get bored. Bored Weimaraners are not ideal!
I have a male Rhodesian "Sammy". We rescued him and after treating him for a massive heartworm infection he is a great companion but very prey focused as his bred dictates. Why anyone would have beat him with a baseball bat is beyond me. You would think that would have made him aggressive towards people but we joke that the bad guys better dress like a cat or squirell if we need him to move into protect mode.
Dustin,
What would you say is the difference between a guard dog and an attack dog? I don't make that distinction, but based on my assumptions about what you mean, I would go the opposite way. Just curious about how you define those terms.
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yatahey, you should not have any dogs to begin with. You are a perfect example to have you head examine or at least pass a test to have a license to care for a dog. Did you wife castrate you after you had desire number of kids, perhaps someone should surgically removed your larynx and take your keyboard away, so you do not give away position of your family. Have you been train not to run after females or food?
It is one thing to kill your dog for food, and quite a other to be unable to train the dog.
You should try both first.
Finally someone mentioned a Husky, my personal favorite! Mine is actually a Husky mix, some German Sheperd and something else. He just looks like a small (42lb) Husky though. He's a GREAT watch dog to let you know when someone is coming. He will bark or sometimes just do a low rumbling growl. He stops on command. However, he's a lover not a fighter. He loves kids, tolerates the ladies, and shies from adult males but doesn't run. He kind of keeps his distance and circles until he is sure he can trust them. No way I'd leave him – he's coming with us for all the reasons mentioned. Plus he only eats about 3 cups of dry dog food per day.
Small breeds are different from toy breeds — many small breeds have working/utility uses and in fact were bred for such. The small terrier breeds (eg: cairn terrier, which we have) was bred as a working/hunting and burrowing dog for prey. They often are, as mentioned, best for early warnings. However, if you are an adequate trainer you should be able to enhance your dog's natural prey drive and he'll help you nab that tasty squirrel, or downed bird, or even that hare.
As a life long big dog fan but the current owner of 2 small dogs, I have to say that my 3 pound yorkie is actually the best watch dog i have ever had. There is a difference between a WATCH dog and a GUARD dog. In a bug out situation, my little alarm system needs 1/10th the food and water of a big dog, is much quieter, takes up no room and is a tough little son of a b (pun intended).
A specific problem with bringing a cat is that they are attached to their territory. If you raise a kitten in one house and try to move to a new location, it will likely leave to try and find home if you allow it outside.
german shepard,
This isn't the place to down people for their opinions. A dog getting you killed is a huge possibility, nor do you truly know anything about yatahey's training.
Chesapeake bay retriever is the navy seal of dogs
I would haft to agree with the "portable heater" thing, and everything you mentioned about the joy of having one around would be a good moral booster for any survival situation.
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